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Comment from S. Cai
Time: March 17, 2008, 9:14 pm

Are you sure they are praying for Tibetan independence? Maybe they are praying for peace and stability in Tibet, as well as for the safety of their relatives.

Comment from S. Cai
Time: March 17, 2008, 9:17 pm

“… the Chinese government killing hundreds of Tibetans in o Lhasa…” I have heard this claim over and over again, but so far I haven’t heard of any substantiated evidence. If you have any, please point it out to me. I appreciated that. Otherwise, please give up you “wishful thinking”.

Comment from Thersites D. Scott
Time: March 18, 2008, 8:08 am

Hi! Do you have ANY info on the 100 nuns who left the Chutsang Nunnery on March 13 and hadn’t returned by the 15th? I need to know whether they’re home safely or not, and what happened to them, for an article I’m writing for the Huffington Post. Please email me at scott a t disputesolutions.org Thanks!!

Comment from Rich
Time: March 18, 2008, 1:28 pm

S. Cai, I don’t think anyone here has “wishful thinking” for people in Lhasa to be killed. Rather, our information is based on many phone calls received from Tibet. Lhasa is much more closed-off than Amdo, where we have very reliable photographic and video evidence of many of the killings, so it’s hard to independently confirm reports. But Tibetans here generally trust the stories their families and friends have been telling them, and I trust them too. With China’s history of lies and coverups during past demonstrations, the natural expectation is that information contrary to state reporting is likely to be true.

Comment from aghaz
Time: March 18, 2008, 1:34 pm

I’m a Tibetan and have lived in the US for 8 years. Based on my experiences in Tibet, Beijing, and the US, I think the Han Chinese treat Tibetans much better than the white Americans treat minority people. An example is that we Tibetans were given priveleges in the national university entrance exam in China; for instance, if a Han Chinese high school student need 600 score to enter a university, we Tibetans need only 520-530 to enter the same university. In this respect, I think the Han Chinese are very nice and better than Americans. Here in the US I feel lots of discrimination from White Americans, which I didn’t feel at all from my Han Chinese classmates when I was studying at a university in Beijing. I feel many Westerners are a bit hypocritic. My parents are currently living in Tibet, and I’ve heard from them that the monks’ protests were originally peaceful but the violence began when some bad young guys burnt stores and cars and beat Han Chinese. I recognize myself as both Tibetan and Chinese. I’m sad about the violence but respect Dalai Lama and the Chinese government and quite confident it will be handled peacefully.

Comment from Glenn
Time: March 18, 2008, 3:57 pm

I want to know how many people here have been to Tibet here???How long you have stay in Tibet???
Why you don’t support free Quebec?
If you have not been to Tibet and you don’t know the true,pls don’t blame other or China gov!

Comment from John
Time: March 18, 2008, 4:54 pm

Well, Glenn, I’ve never been to Tibet, but I think it’s safe to say that unlike in Quebec (which I have visited), the Chinese government regularly denies the Tibetan people their rights, particularly the right freely practice their religion, to speak about “sensitive” issues, and to assemble. I don’t particularly care if Tibet remains a part of China or not, so long as these rights are not infringed upon by the Chinese government. That is the Dalai Lama’s position as well. These seem like pretty reasonable demands. Since the Chinese government hasn’t met them, then they are indeed to blame for what is happening right now.

Comment from Rich
Time: March 18, 2008, 7:01 pm

Last summer I spent about 85 days in Tibet. I’ve been to nearly half of the places where protests have happened. (And no I did not make any suggestion of protest to anyone there.) In Ngaba, relatives of very close friends of mine have been killed. I’m extremely worried for many of my friends in Lhasa - I’ve been unable to reach any of them and don’t know whether they took part in protests, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they did. So you’d better believe me when I say I have no wish for people to be dying in Tibet. It’s extremely frustrating and emotional for me not knowing who’s even alive or if the people I care about are being tortured. But I deeply respect the determination and sacrifice of every person who has risen up for the future of Tibet, and I await the day I can meet them face to face.

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Comment from lingyu
Time: March 19, 2008, 11:38 am

John. during 25 years of my life living in China and having orthodox Chinese education, I have never heard anybody in any occasion telling me to hate or discriminate other ethnic groups. Actually we were kind of indoctrinated the idea that we have equal rights and we live as a family. I can guarantee that you can find these words in the politics or history books on any Chinese student’s shelf. If millions of Chinese people were and are still being educated this way, how can it be possible that our government blatantly deprive the equal rights of Tibetan people?

The democracy in China is not mature enough to grant the same freedom like in Quebec or other western countries. As we have the equal rights, why should Tibetans enjoy a higher level of freedom?

I believe most of the 6 million Tibetan people are working hard to improve their lives like the rest of Chinese. Only those who have nothing to do with Chinese economic development (outside China or simply ignorant mobs) are trying to undermine the stability of Tibet by inciting ethnic hatred.

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Comment from Noolympics
Time: March 19, 2008, 12:20 pm

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Comment from Rich
Time: March 19, 2008, 3:08 pm

Lingyu, the one fatal flaw in your reasoning is that Tibetans are not Chinese, never wanted to be Chinese, and should not have to put up with being part of the “immature” Chinese state, as you have described it. If China is really so backwards that it’s “not ready” to respect people’s basic rights, don’t force other peoples who don’t want to be part of that backwardness to be a part of it.

Contrary to the state propaganda you’re echoing, the economic direct action carried out by Tibetans is NOT ethnically targetted but nationally targetted. Reports from Tibetans in Lhasa indicate that businesses owned by the few Tibetans loyal to the Chinese state were burned just like “ethnic Chinese” businesses. In the Tibetan language and world view of identity, Chinese is a word referring to a foreign nation’s people. It’s about countries not races. Tibetans say “gyami” (person of China) not “gyarig” (Chinese ethnicity).

Comment from John
Time: March 19, 2008, 3:52 pm

Lingyu. I appreciate your response, it was very thoughtful and I see that you are a reasonable person who has thought a great deal about the civil rights inside and outside of China. I don’t think that China is a racist country that sees Tibetans or Uyghurs or anyone else as lower than Han Chinese or vise-versa. Nor do I think that any form of ethnic hatred has a place in resolving the Tibet issue. I recognize that China is not a mature democracy like the western nations, and that change takes time.

And yet, I frequently find the actions of the central government to be outrageous and heavy-handed. It isn’t just Tibet. Right now, China is trying democracy activist Hu Jia on charges of “subversion.” No media or independent third parties were allowed to be present at the trial, which makes it more likely that the trial will be slanted against Hu from the start. It may be because I was raised and educated in the United States, but whenever I see someone in China go on trial for “subversion” or “threatening unity,” only one word comes to mind: bullshit. Charges like that are so open-ended that they could put anyone in prison if they wanted to. The central government’s credibility is also damaged when it insists that the Dalai Lama is a terrorist. That is ridiculous, and obviously propaganda.

From the outside, it looks as though the central government feels it must shut down anything that poses a challenge to it. Even though you theoretically have legal rights in China, those rights go out the window the second you start raising eyebrows among party officials. Hence, China isn’t racist against the Tibetans; they simply perceive their culture and nationalism as something that is a threat and must be controlled. That’s the problem here: China wants the “rights” granted to Tibetans to be the same as those granted to citizens in China proper, and such limited rights facilitates the dilution and destruction of Tibet’s culture. Nothing personal or based on racism, just business as usual for the central government.

As an outsider, I’m sure it seems presumptuous of me to be commenting on and criticizing your government. But if it helps any, I am very critical of my government as well. Many of George W. Bush’s policies–particularly his foreign policy and the Iraq war–have driven me to protest in the street, write for newspapers, and get active in an effort to stem the damage he has done. But all the bad things Bush has done aren’t just his fault; they are the fault of the American people for letting him get away with them and buying into his oftentimes ridiculous justifications for them. The same goes for China, and for Chinese citizens. Even though your government isn’t as progressive as some of those in the west, it is YOUR government. YOU are responsible for the things your government does in your name. And if you just excuse it when it acts against the human rights of anyone in China, Tibetan or otherwise, it will continue to do so for a very long time. If you want things to be different, you have to work for change. Because the central government has shown time and time again that when it comes to human rights, it isn’t going to change on its own.

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Comment from Tenzing
Time: March 19, 2008, 5:44 pm

These young Tibetans my age were extremely brave to have organized such a vigil for their fellow countrymen and women of Tibet who perished in the Chinese crackdown. The Tibetan spirit will never waiver.

Freedom for Tibet!

Comment from Tian
Time: March 19, 2008, 10:19 pm

Rich and John, I would like to point out a few flaws in what you said. To say that all Tibetans refuse to be labeled as Chinese is simply incorrect. Modern China is completely different from China in the traditional sense. Keep in mind that China is composed of 56 ethnicities, each with its own distinct culture, language, and way of life. Labeling a Han person as the only representative of “Chinese” is simply ignorant. As a Beijingner I would rather define Chinese as anyone from the Asia Pacific region who speaks Chinese and is driven by rational self maximization. As cynical as it may sound, I think this is most reasonable picture of a “Chinese” person today. Quite a few Tibetans fall into this category. I personally know quite a few in Beijing.
Also, think rationally. If you are a poor person who lacks the basic necessities of life such as healthcare, employment, education for your children…etc. These are your rational priority, not “people’s basic rights” in the western sense. In fact, whoever can fulfill their basic necessities has given them their basic rights. These are the “people’s basic rights” in developing countries. The western definition of “people’s basic rights” is complete unrealistic idealistic bullshit which doesn’t even apply in the current situation. In fact, because of recent CIA financed subversions, some of the existing economical infrastructure in Tibet are destroyed. This has essentially deprived the Tibetan and Han Chinese of their “basic rights”.

To John, calling state labeled subversion bullshit and any Chinese side of the story “propaganda” shows two things. First, it shows you don’t understand Chinese history. And second, the fact that you are so one sided yourself that you refuse to analyze with an open mind any perspective other than your Fox-patrician backed media spewing those news deemed most lucrative. You see, in “democratic” countries, the government don’t tell you what you should know but only what you want to know. The former case is called propaganda which exists in communist countries, and the latter is called ignorance induced propaganda which exists in democratic countries such as America. Both are propagandas. However, truth comes out after analyzing both forms.

W

Comment from Tian
Time: March 19, 2008, 10:20 pm

When I said you don’t understand Chinese history I meant that if you did, you would realize that in all 5,000 years of Chinese history there has never been a peaceful protest which ended in harmony. All protests end in bloodshed when left unchecked. This is because China was and is ruled on a principle of enlightened dictatorship. In this government system, there is an implicit agreement between the people and their ruler; the former will obey on the condition that the latter, which is deemed superior either mentally, militaristically or in terms of virtue, will live for the common good of the people. This is Chinese government philosophy in a nutshell which is exactly what Socrates preached as the ideal form of government in The Republic. Interestingly, Socrates strongly condemned mob rule a.k.a democracies. As you can see from the economic progress, enlightened dictatorships are better.
In the current situation, Chinese society is in a very dangerous and volatile state. The whole country has plunged into lawless capitalism. If the central government allowed free speech and expression, China would collapse into chaos and civil war. This is because in China, every faction wants to be the leader and no one compromises or tolerates each other. In general, we are far too ambitious and aggressive to engage in useless banter.
I think in the end, it comes down to basic philosophy. China and the west will never mix because the fundamental values are completely different. Chinese value order, discipline, objectivism, rationally, and enlightened rule. Whereas the west value, freedom/chaos, liberty, individuality, irrationality, and democracies. Each system has its benefits and flaws. The Chinese system is glorious when the leader is enlightened, brilliant and just. During such periods even the most ignorant and poor citizens are comparatively enlightened and rich. BUt when the leader is shallow, stupid, and unjust, the suffering of the people is beyond imagination. The western system on the other hand promotes stability. There are too many checks for corrupt officials to harm the people, but because the people are unenlightened they are petty, ignorant, and they live in fear. Neither system is better than the other.

Comment from Rich
Time: March 20, 2008, 6:42 am

Tian, your comment that “As you can see from the economic progress, enlightened dictatorships are better,” explains exactly why the world hates China. The rise of a people who accept this sort of thinking is the greatest disaster the world is facing right now. The hippie westerners who think the Dalai Lama should be world dictator are just as ridiculous. There is absolutely no such thing as an enlightened dictator because an enlightened person recognizes dictatorship as the crime against the human spirit which it is.

Comment from Rich
Time: March 20, 2008, 6:49 am

Tian, ask almost any Tibetan “ཁྱེད་རང་རྒྱ་མི་ཡིན་པས།” and they’ll say no. You continue to accuse us of ignorance regarding China as if China were the issue here. Tibet is the issue and as such it is Tibet that you must understand to address the issue. Try learning something from the people actually affected rather than pompously railing on with your own national pride.

Comment from John
Time: March 20, 2008, 9:50 am

Tian, I don’t claim to be an expert on China, but please do not think of me as some stupid American who watches and believes in Fox news. I do NOT watch Fox news. Let’s be clear on that. I’m also aware of the fact that many western media outlets are entertainment industries, in that they cover current events in such a way that will entice more viewers to watch, in order to make advertisers want to buy time slots for commercials. I do a great deal of reading and fact-checking to compensate for those inadequacies. But I wouldn’t trade that for a government-run media outlet like Xinhua. Tian, they have the power to keep the truth from you when it is convenient for them, and do it regularly! How can you accept that?

I agree that many cultural differences really are neither right or wrong, just differences that can be bridged by greater understanding. But for a government to reserve the right to lock people up or otherwise neutralize them because it thinks they are rocking the boat too much isn’t a legitimate cultural “difference” that I’m willing to recognize. Destroying people for political dissent is simply wrong, and not the way a great nation like China should conduct itself. It may have gotten you guys this far, but the time is coming where it will only hold you back. America had a problem that was similar in some ways: our country was built by slave labor in its formative years, and it was good for our economy. But it was wrong, and it was stopped. I know that China doesn’t practice slavery, but just as we had to deal with that issue, China will eventually have to grant its people true civil rights.

With regard to your argument that China’s economic success is proof that enlightened dictatorships are better, I would raise the objection that there are numerous cases of your leadership not being so enlightened, and they have come at the expense of Chinese citizens’ basic rights. More and more protests are happening in China at the local level because some of the factories built for to further your economic development have caused pollution to run rampant, in some cases to the point where it is a health hazard. I’m not sure how much news about those protests you guys get from the Chinese media (don’t take that the wrong way, I really don’t know what they let you see or how they cover it; could you shine some light on that for us please?), but things don’t seem to be improving on that front. It sometimes appears that your government believes it to be more cost-efficient to continue on that path than to fix the problems in order to guarantee its citizens their basic rights of health and survival. Since you identified in your post above those rights as the true rights that China owes its citizens, I think we can agree that such dangerous polluting is wrong, and needs to change.

Just so everyone knows, I’m really enjoying these discussions, and think this dialogue is good for us all. One World, One Dream people! : )

Comment from Tian
Time: March 20, 2008, 1:06 pm

Ok guys, look, like I said, I’m a far more liberal Chinese person than most Chinese you will talk to. I’m not saying my country is wonderful, it certainly isn’t and it has MANY many flaws. But what I am saying is that you have to look at it from a different perspective. Understand and judge China from a Chinese perspective instead of judging it by imposing your cultural beliefs! The latter is called cultural imperialism which is extremely irritating to most Chinese. I have read too many Chinese news stories and editorials about how another government official had to deal with western ignorance.

Now with that said, Rich, the reason you say my comments represent the greatest disaster to mankind is because YOU didn’t grow up in a developing country. Indeed, I will be so bold as to say that you came from a middle to upper middle class background and live in a secure life which gives you the luxury to preach to poor people about high flying bullshit such as the “rights of mankind”. Think for a moment and put yourself in the shoes of a poor person who is living in some remote village without electricity, heating, and running water. You are constantly battered by corrupt officials, plagued by the fear of unemployment, and terrorized by the notion of falling sick and having to go the hospital and pay the outrageous fee. Virtually anything you do requires money and your children are uneducated which means that they will go through the same troubles you are going through right now. Will you care about the “rights of mankind” or large sums of wealth? Think rationally now, which one do you think it’s going to be? Do not penalize or look down on the poor because of their wretched condition, this is exactly what you are doing. To an average poor Chinese person, talks of “human rights” in the western sense is not only irrelevant bullshit but also an insult. Lifting these people out of poverty is the greatest thing a government can do for them. They have given them their deserved “human rights”.

“There is absolutely no such thing as an enlightened dictator because an enlightened person recognizes dictatorship as the crime against the human spirit which it is.”

Bravo, that’s some wonderful scholarly aspiration you preach there. But now, I want you to come back to earth and take a good look around. America, one of the most democratic countries in the world, has the highest percentage of people behind bars. Its school children commit outrageous atrocities such as massacring their fellow schoolmates and destroy themselves through drugs. Young adults commit all sorts of unspeakable, shameful sex related crimes. And since the people are free, they are the most ignorant on earth because of their natural tendency to cater to their passions. Do you think people can handle their own freedom?! America is under mob rule a la The Republic and you people are destroying yourselves. Look at what Bush is doing to the economy! Your mob elected village idiot is wrecking not only America but also the world.

Comment from Tian
Time: March 20, 2008, 1:07 pm

Talk to the Tibetans. Okay, I did, I have many close Tibetan friends in Beijing. To me they seemed very pragmatic. They are happy that they and their family enjoy a better standard of living but they are unhappy about the government censorship and the state oppression on organized Tibetan religion. Also, not all of them want full independence. From what I saw, the regular Tibetans are just like any other person, dictated by similar laws of human nature.

I condemn the fact that Tibetan religion is suppressed. Personally, I would like to know more about Tibetan buddhism. And I would highly condemn police brutality against righteous, law abiding Tibetan monks/nuns.

To John, there’s no need to publicize protest of the environmental degradation. Information travel far faster in communist countries than democratic countries which controls its citizens by fostering ignorance. All Chinese realize the severe situation. Last summer when I was in Beijing, the place was like a hot gas chamber. Visibility was less than 200m on some days on the streets and at night, while riding my bicycle home, I literally felt like as if I was riding after a car with a very bad exhaust problem. My apartment, which is on the 10th floor can only see smog out of the window. Yeah, the situation is really bad in the city, but it’s even worse in the country side and everybody is complaining. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if in 40 years we find people come in from the countryside that glows at night.
But you see, everybody also realize that there’s no other way. China has 1 billion people and most of them are unskilled with no education. The only way for them to get out of poverty is to work in factories, and this will pollute the country. On top of this is the fact that the rest of the world is bent on destroying China because of their irrational hypocritical foolishness, so no one is offering help. So to answer you, there is no other way.

Okay, I have written too much and wasted too much time. I hope this sheds some light on the situation from an alternative perspective. I have to get back to my studies.

Oh and…Lhadon, you are hot. Fight on, maybe I will see you in Beijing this summer and we could hang out. Peace!

Comment from Lobsang Tashi
Time: March 20, 2008, 7:03 pm

Hi, Lhadon la, my name is Tashi and i’m living New Jersey. I’m cenvinced surely to tell you that the SFT is a peerless organization for Tibetan Independent movement. You guys are doing amezing job for our freedom struggle. I’m so proud of you. I’know you cant do It. We Tibetans are always standing with you. Thank you verymuch. May we reunion with our glorious flag in the Land of Snow, this year, this month, at this moment. Thank you very much.

Comment from Lobsang Tashi
Time: March 20, 2008, 7:11 pm

I am sorry, that English is my second langauge.

Comment from Rich
Time: March 20, 2008, 11:40 pm

Tian, talking to the few Tibetans with the most relations with Chinese, Chinese education, etc. is not going to give you a very big piece of the picture. And sadly you can’t get the picture from rural villagers, nomads, farmers, traders, small shopkeepers, etc. because as a Chinese you’re automatically distrusted and considered an informant for the colonizer. Non-Chinese foreigners who speak Tibetan are able to gather all kinds of stories and opinions when travelling in Tibet, and the sentiment we gather is overwhelmingly opposed to the Chinese occupation.

Comment from kalsang
Time: March 21, 2008, 1:11 am

Tian,

I am a Tibetan. I want a Free Tibet and so does every other Tibetan that i know. In an ideal situation, we Tibetans do not want to cause China and its people any harm, we just want what is/was always rightfully ours, Tibet. We have lived under your regime for close to fifty years now, always demonstrating in peace and asking for dialouge, asking for our country but you never listen. There is now violence…Are you suprised after fifty years that someone finally is tired of being submissive?
If tommorrow the reigns of political and economic power were to shift and some other country tried to take over and rule China, i assume you would protect your land and its people from foreign invasaion. I assume you would do everything in your power to protect your country. Why are you then suprised when we Tibetans are trying to do just that.
The Tibetans who marched for a Free Tibet were not going for a stroll in the park, they were walking a thin line between life and death and it was a risk they were willing to take for their country and its people. Even if i weren’t a Tibetan, my eyes would be filled with tears over such bravery. It is rare in this day and age to find people who are willing to give their lives for their principles and challenge a country whose economy and military power is its pride and joy.
I am sorry Tian, that you never understood the struggle of being invaded,oppressed, and turning into a minority in ones own country..but then again Tian, you have China to call your home and the great part is that you are Chinese, so how could i expect you to understand the sorrows of being TIbetan.
If you wonder why your Tibetan friends don’t say anything against China, it would be the very same reason why you would not criticise the Chinese Leaders and regime
openly in China. Why would any Tibetan in their right mind bad mouth China to a CHinese and express sentiments of Freedom, unless they want to be imprisoned and die an untimely death.
Tian, i can see that you are convinced in your thoughts about your feelings on CHina and Tibet. And i am convinced in my thoughts about a FREE TIBET. My prayers are that no innocent CHinese lives are affected by this struggle but if the goverment does not listen to our requests for INdependence, then don’t be suprised when there is violence because the bottom line is that Tibet was forcefully taken from us Tibetans and more than a million Tibetans died trying to protect their land…If we Tibetans don’t continue our struggle for Freedom then those deaths would be in vain. The blood of even one Tibetan shed for his country is sacred because the cause is pure, it is not for personal economic gain, power,politics, revenge, or even hatred, it is for the land and its people. Its altruistic.

Comment from Free Cuba Foundation
Time: March 21, 2008, 10:26 pm

The Free Cuba Foundation will be showing the documentary “Cuban Spring” which was filmed in 2003 before and after the March 2003 crackdown interviewing many of the activists before their imprisonment and their families reactions following the crackdown.

The event will conclude with a candlelight vigil for Cuba’s political prisoners and in solidarity with Tibetans suffering a crackdown today by Chinese occupation authorities.

Comment from tenzing namdrol
Time: March 25, 2008, 7:26 am

i m a tibetan girl from darjeeling india age 13,i m really happy that thousands of people a re fighting for our freedom .we in darjeeling are also shouting and going out for procession.in tibet the chinese have killed more thta thousand of monks and public have be killed very badly,so plzz help them by joing us .. pleasese all the people form the world come and join us and please pray for our freedom.we really are fighting for it .plzzzz pray for us .one world one dream .free tiobet free tibet free tibet.live for freedom ,die for freedom.and also fight for freedom.

Comment from tenzing namdrol
Time: March 25, 2008, 7:33 am

the tragedy year of 1959,devils from the east rose over the heavingly empire land of arc.
and turned it into a blue red hell.the crystel clear of rivers in nector in lhasa were a ll converted into rivers of blood.
recalling the christ of our fartherland .
we have to fight for our ceast.
free tibet free tibet free tibet.

Comment from molly
Time: March 30, 2008, 2:01 pm

Petition for peaceful solution tibet crisis and support of Dalai Lama.
http://www.avaaz.org/en/tibet_end_the_violence/
It is already signed by 1,300,00 people…

Please tell also your friends, family and acquaintances.

Comment from tsering
Time: April 2, 2008, 9:36 am

There is not evidence to let world know. Very evidence of blocking journalist access to Tibet sums up gross violation is going on which Chinese goverment doesn’t want world to see.

Comment from KC
Time: April 3, 2008, 3:16 pm

Tian, indeed you have wasted your time with these people. There are the Tibetans who are trying to feed themselves and better their lives and there are these “Tibetans” who like a little piece of their land which their serf-owning forefathers lost. what you gotta do. fighting for religious freedom? really? maybe they should think about how this betters the lives of regular Tibetans.
I do disagree with you on one thing though, she’s not particular attractive, not by any standards.

Comment from phophuclai
Time: April 4, 2008, 5:28 am

China will not concede any more territory until the US pull out of all it’s military bases surrounding China and end the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan.

Comment from tenzin gyaltsen
Time: April 4, 2008, 12:32 pm

As a Tibetan, I am so proud of these young Tibetan students in Beijing and of the thousands of Tibetans who have risen up and spoken out against China’s continued oppression, repression, and occupation in Tibet. For all those who question the motivations or intentions of those protesters or of the Tibetans outside Tibet working for a free tibet, all I can say as a Tibetan is, We are Tibetan and Tibet is our home, therefore, we truly know the situation of and in Tibet.

Like my friend says, many of these young Tibetans were born after the Chinese occupation of our country and have never known a free tibet, however, it is in our bones, it is in our hearts and souls!!

the Tibetan spirit will never die, no matter how brutally the Chinese military crushes it. Bhod gyallo!

Comment from No Where
Time: April 5, 2008, 2:27 am

The two sovereigns, uncle and nephew, having come to agreement that their territories be united as one, have signed this alliance of great peace to last for eternity! May God and humanity bear witness thereto so that it may be praised from generation to generation.

Comment from Xia Tian
Time: April 12, 2008, 2:00 pm

hey the other Tian, cool name

I’ve lived in Beijing for more than ten years before moving to London. I can tell you that it’s actually the han Chinese that are ‘discriminated’. All ethnic minority groups in china (56 of them including tibetans) gets bonus marks in uni entrance exams, tax benifits and most importantly: the god damned one child policy does not effect them! And as a matter of fact, there is religous freedom in China, as long as you don’t get political.

Free Tibet ? I’m sorry I just can’t see it happening, if tibet actually declared independence, it would be a dictatorship under the Dalai Lama. More autonomy how ever wouldn’t be such a bad idea.

Comment from Jiefang Zhongguo
Time: April 19, 2008, 8:16 pm

我们一定要解放中国！

Comment from 1936=2008
Time: April 19, 2008, 8:22 pm

Berlin 1936 = 2008

Jiang Yu= Joseph Goebbels

Heil Zhongguo! Heil CCP!

Comment from Ice Bug
Time: April 21, 2008, 7:17 pm

I don’t think the Tibetans in exile cares much about the interest of REAL Tibetans in Tibet.
Yeah, free T*b** and let you guys take over.

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